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I had a wonderful conversation with Philippe Beaudoin, another X-Googler who is now the co-founder and CEO of Waverly. Phil and his team are building an evolved, next-generation social network. In his vision, this platform will leverage intention rather than capitalize on people's attention. Take a listen to Phil and I talk about social networking, Waverly's potential revenue models, and board games.

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